There have been some improvements with the new Add-ons, but
overall the user interface has become much worse, particularly
regards to searching. There have been no improvements in
categorizations (keywords).
Addons_2007 New Format
Improved (#improved)
The new Add-ons Format has made a few improvements: Individual
author forums is now integrated from an add-on page as discussions
-- probably good, but not tied in to an FAQ.
There is a bit less wasted space at the top, but has annoying
molding appearance.
Problems (#problems)
The Advanced Search was always poorly implemented in that there
never was any direct url to be accessed, and now the Advanced
Search is completely missing, so there is no way to be precise
in searching and there is no way to get more than 10 hits per
search results page.
As of April 22, 2007 it has been at least a month that Add-ons
has been crippled without an Advanced Search page.
What is the Sandbox?
Policy,
Comparisons (#comparisons)
Comparisons of old and new pages ae no longer possible with directions I had here.
You can do a side by side comparison with the "Split Browser"
extension. All attempts to access old pages via https://63.245.209.31/...
are now redirected to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ page as of
Monday 2007-04-23.
These examples were included in Bug: 384039 (2007-06-11) but some have
been reloaded by their authors since.
- Previews for CacheViewer (2489) -- author since redid images, apparently not easy to follow whatever directions he had
because both preview and full size image are included in preview page though both forced to look same size.
- Read Easily (1224) single image is so bad it is hard to believe that anyone would that up as an example, but again nothing to compare to.
- Previews for Bookmarks' Full Titles (1024)
Another image, I will not include the webpage is Launchy compare add-ons site with image
squeezed down to the actual image that you can see on Heinrich Gemal's site.
What we have in 2007 (#new)
The problems with Add-ons began in earnest in March 2007 with
Remora (Update:remora) (found from
Mozilla wiki (Updatge:Home Page))
with the introduction of the sandbox, loss of advanced search, worse documentation layout (more a
failure to make promised improvements), and
some extension authors jumped ship.
- Registration Required to get to see more add-ons, Give me a
break, this is quite the opposite of why many people choose
Firefox in the first place, to be secure, no cookies, no
tracking. In reality to comment or add to discussions you
would have to register, but certainly you should NOT have to
register to see all add-ons.
- Search box on page that morphs it's size as you try to
type.(problem)
- Sandbox annoying, obscures wording, public/sandbox
links is ambiguous aside from the obvious annoyance, poorly
thought out, difficult for people to find old extensions. Trying
to hit a moving target to do a search is a big problem.
- No Advanced Search (problem) in the new add-ons site.
(link
to old
page [63.245.209.31]) and click on Advanced Options to the
right of the search box). On the advanced search you had been
able to select.
Category: {Any | bookmarks | Developer
Tools,...,Tabbed Browsing, ...}
Type: {Extensions | Themes}
App: {Firefox | Mozilla | Seabird |
Thunderbird}
Platform: {Any, All, BSD, Linus, MACOSX, Solaris,
Windows}
Date: {Any | Today | This Week | This Month | This
Year}
Sort by: {Newest | Name | Rating | Popularity
}
Per page: {10 | 25 | 50}
In order to use as a search engine I chose the above and
installed it as a search engine using the "Add to
Search Bar" extension. But you can't even do that with
the new add-ons pages
- Show 50 can be found at the bottom of some search results pages,
but again you have to have done a search beforehand, and everytime you
turn around you see the "Log in" at the top meaning you're not logged in
for this session.
- (This workaround no longer available). Seems that at about 6PM US EDT (2007-04-21) my search engine with old
links [63.245.209.31] now ties into new material when displaying
results, but it is still not available at the new add-ons for
others to do same, unless they create their search engine from
old
page [63.245.209.31]. As of some point on Mon Apr 23rd 2007
all references to 63.245.209.31 are being redirected so this item is now dead.
- Instead of improving availability and reuse of the advanced
search with preferred settings, it was eliminated.
- As before No direct access to Advanced Search with a
specific url.
- Would have expected a more fully featured Advanced
Search that also includes additions to search fields:
extension title, author, key words, description, comments,
discussion.
- Key words would help with search engines such as Google. An
advantage of other search engines is that they usually show some
of the wording in relation to your search arguments.
- In fact it is not clear what is being looked at when
you put words into the search form, nor was it ever clear the
ambiguity continues. In the past I've found that it works better
if words are entered in alphabetical order.
- Keywords should be visible on page, and should be in META
tags for visibility in search engines (even if most search
engines don't pay attention to them).
- Space hogging column with a chose your language (problem),
Why do I have to double the width of my screen for that.
- Screen shot replaced by logo on FireFTP (might be that ext
only)
- The download size has been moved (problem) off of the install
button to below that and below the developer comments.
- Previous comments before new add-ons have been removed, not
even an archive.(problem) I can see starting over on comments,
ratings etc, but the old comments had a lot of useful
information.
- Developer Comments remains same, but the download sizes is
now below them. Problem is that the FF versions, Install, and
download size are not all together.
- Reviews (User Comments) has been changed from 1-5 to 1-10.
The bad part is that the old comments are not archived, as they
had good information particularly for extensions that the
internal version was not upgraded While the versioning seems like
a good idea, for most extensions it does not matter and creates
major problems for authors and users.
- Discusions has been added (good) so that they are more
closely tied in than some private forum. Discussions is where you
look for more information and bring up issues (fortunately no
ratings involved).
Keyword search at Add-ons using Google: (#kws)
Name: add-ons: Search for
extensions at addons.mozilla.org/firefox
keyword: add-ons:
Description: This is a Google search
not the same as the one on the Search Bar for Add-ons
Name: add-ons2: Search two
places for Firefox add-ons
keyword: addons2:
Description: (blank)
Location:
More information on Keyword Shortcuts,
and installing the "OpenBook" extension will speed up entering
link information when you want to include a keyword shortcut, or
a description.
Image problems at addons.mozilla.org
Now that the people whose images were destroyed by Remora updates to add-ons and the authors have reloaded their images, here is what you see.
This is the preview of all of the images shown at add-ons for the extension, from this select an image for the larger view: [This is just an example, it is not the kind of extension that would use currently.
Interclue For Firefox 1.2.1.4173
The Interclue Team
http://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/previews/4999
This is the larger preview image, but the link is ambiguous
because it is the same as above, but image is distorted as it is not fullsize but slightly reduced with an annoying background of the original page grayed out, and you can't use another viewer on the image yet.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/previews/4999
This link can be viewed in an image editor from Firefox,
but you first have to right-click on the above then view image
before Remora this is what you got immediately when you clicked
on the smaller image.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/preview/4999/1
Another Example where the author had a decent image to suffice
at the small size, but Remora add-ons desroyed the image to make it landscape instead of portrait. I think if you could look at the previous add-ons site you would find that image was clear and did not need a larger image. As it is it is adequate so isn't likely to get redone,
but it is disappointing because the area was the same size as the image frame being forced.
Launchy 4.2.0, by by Henrik Gemal
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/81
I think used to have the same clear distinctive image as on
his own site. http://gemal.dk/mozilla/launchy.html
Usage Comments (#usage)
After installing a new extension, try to find the following:
-
Does the extension have an options on the Tools, Add-ons listing, or perhaps on a context menu or a toolbar or statusbar button.
- Do you need to invoke the extension, if so from where: main context menu, Tools menu, Sidebar (View, sidebar), Edit or other menu
- Does the extension have buttons, or a toolbar that you might want to, or need to include (View, Toolbars, Customize)
- You should locate the author's site, if one exists, for additional documentation, if not specifically listed on the add-on page you may find one using the author's name link at the top of the add-ons page.
- Check the author's documentation for additons to keyboard shortcuts, and mouse usage. If you have extensions that use the same shortcut, you can check for and adjust conflicts with the [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1043 KeywordBar] extension.
- Check the discussions and reviews at the bottom of the add-ons page. You may find some hints in the discussions if you have a problem. Keep in mind that most authors have only one machine and probably cannot write for multiple platforms when coding is dependent on systems.
Advance Search Return Bug: 370598 (#addons2008)
- Mockups of new/replacement advanced search for Fx3 can be found in the attachments section of Bug: 370598.
- Appversions :: Firefox Add-ons, Valid Application Versions
Add-ons submitted to Mozilla Add-ons must have an install.rdf file. Some of those for Fx3 includes: 3.0b5, 3.0pre, 3.0, 3.0.*
Fx3 Notes (#addons2008)
Install Manifests - MDC, identifying the addon, providing information about who created it, where more information can be found about it, which versions of what applications it is compatible with, how it should be updated, and so on. (what the author supplies when submitting an addon).
- Firefox 3 for developers - MDC
Miscellaneous (#misc)
Tidbits of Passing Interest (#tidbits)
Bugs related to this page (#bugs)
The following were found searching bugzilla for "search addons OR add-ons" and are related
to problems noted on this page, mainly to bug 372841:
- Bug 370598, Search does not contain public and sandboxed add-ons if logged in and sandbox enabled
- Bug 372841, Bring back the advanced search options from v2 to Remora. Main reason why this page got lost was because it never had a url that could be directly addressed.
- Bug 375911, 404 page for search-engines on FF 1.5
- Bug 375567, AMOs own (offered) search plugin broken
Bugs related to other items mentioned on this page, also found searching bugzilla for "search addons"
- Bug 375329, Add possibility to search for extension developers / authors. One of things that could have been improved had Advanced Search been improved rather than eliminated.
- Bug 384039,AMO size of preview images.
(Mine), Just scratches the surface of format changes that made site worse and less descriptive. Considered to be Invalid and of course there is no recourse.
Images are being improved as authors are forced to resubmit them, but even if you have
a decent image you have to go through properties to view the image by itself with
complete viewing control because of the pop up type of crap (it sucks lemons).
Bypass for some situations (and a bypass is not a fix): Use image-zoom on the pop-over to enlarge image, or or right-click on image (not the misleading pop-up area) for view image, then use Launchy to bring up your own image viewer as you could before when the enlarged image was brought up by itself.
Don't think these are actually involved.
Bug 372462 – Improve image quality on resize. deals with forcing IMG tag on a dimension.
Bug 350147 – Local image size won't be displayed. Actually can't get byte size and dimensions from AMO's Apache servers either, but can from bugzilla.
Addons Site Interface and Search, Problems with the Addons site, particularly the search interface.
- Firefox customizations (Notes) (on
site), Extension Notes, My Firefox Information
- Firefox Support : Customizing your Firefox with add-ons [Add-ons Tutorial being created for mozilla.org or .com]
- Firefox
Add-ons (addons.mozilla.org/firefox), where to get addons.
But in fact many of the so called 'recommendations' are very bad choices, and you might be much better off installing a keyword shortcut for you own searches [addons:],
and referring to the extensions listed on my home page.
- Search Mozilla and other Firefox
Searches (onsite)
- addons.mozilla.org/firefox revamped or not (2007-03-25) in mozilla.support.firefox
- Mozilla Webdev » Blog Archive » Reviewing, the Sandbox, and "missing" add-ons (2007-03-23)
- Mozilla Webdev » Blog Archive » all pre-existing add-ons restored (made public) (2007-03-26)
- Bug 372841,
In v2 search, one could select the category, type, application, platform, date,
sort order, and number of items returned per page. None of these options are
available in Remora. This makes searching for stuff rather painful if not
impossible. Please get this fixed before v3 is (re)launched. Philip Chee 2007-03-06.
- Smart Computing Article - Fanning The Flames Of Firefox (May 2007, subscriber), topic "Finding A New Friend" will no longer work as there is no longer an "Advanced Search".