with the Addons site,
particularly the search interface.
Addons Site Interface and
I don't see anything that has been improved with the new addons, and
do see a lot of things that have been made worse.
- Firefox and more: new addons site public preview
"new addons site public preview",
The web dev team have just announced that the next generation addons
site is now available for preview and feedback. New features
improved l10n, a better review system, threaded discussions, a unified
login for developers and users, and improved
search. Posted by Asa
Dotzler - Jan 3, 2007
There were in fact no
improvements to the extensions search
discussion below on Asa's blog degenerated one person posting 3 times
wanting to bookmark their favorite search results or something to that
Instead of being an improved
Advanced Search disappeared.
– Bring back the advanced search options from v2 to Remora
The problems with the search that existed before Remora were as follows:
[support group would
like some tangible evidence of numbers of
additional questions asked in support groups, because users can't use
the Advanced Search and I presume should also include all
requests for extensions because we can't point to a url for them to
conduct their own Advanced Search.]
- The Advanced Search could
only be reached after using the basic search box, since it did not have
a URL, so could not be bookmarked and could not be pointed to directly
- There was no link to a page of search options, so you don't even know what areas are being searched on. I
found that single words worked best and if you had multiple words you
were better off if they were entered in alphabetical order.
- It had been possible;
however, to reference the Advanced
by filling in what you wanted for basics: Platform (operating system),
Extensions (/Themes), category (All is a choice), how many hits you
wanted per page (the default is a useless 10), and what order (alpha,
rating (popularity contest), category} then to use the "Add to Engines"
extension to be able to effect an advanced search from the Search
engines Add to Search Bar, by Malte Kraus (Dr. Evil) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3682
- Even the simple search
was made very annoying by
the search entry box as you begin to type.
- The former and very useful verbose search results listing with much detail about each extension has been replaced with a minimal search results listing with no detail and there is no choice as to what you get, there are now only pretty pictures that provide little information instead of detailed description. These are really short descriptions like short 1 or 2 sentences simiarl to what you get from the Extensions stored description that you see in Listzilla or InfoLister.
- The title banner has quite
thankfully been made smaller, but now
shares the same blurred vision curvature of the default FF tabs,
at least there is nothing important that has be be read on it.
Change for the sake of change, definitely not an improvement.
- There are more screen shots
for the extensions, but they are too
small to read, and clicking on a screen shot to make it bigger
doesn't do much to help. You at least should be able to read
writing. As it is you can't even tell difference between text
The following items have
been removed or moved from the bottom
of the page, and harder to
- Previously the download size
and versions appeared in the install button, now they are outside of
the install button and the download size is below the developer
comments so man not even be
near the install button.
- The author's site is no
longer identified at the bottom, but as a link to the author's name at
the top of the page.
- Category and keywords that
used to be at the bottom are now missing keywords probably only
- Similar Extensions has been
moved from the bottom to the sidebar, where it does not belong and is
the only thing related to the extension that is listed on the sidebar.
Advanced Search Interface (#interface)
For the "Advanced Options" that were formerly available my
choices installed into my own personal search engine (using the "Add to
Search Bar" extension)
for addons went something like this:
Category: any, Type: Extensions, App: Firefox, Platform:
Date: Any, Sort by: Newest,
Per Page: 50
Some of the relevant portions extracted from the sort engine that is
Here is an example of the new search that could be converted to a
shortcut for a search, but where
you going to find that show=50 means
show 50 entries at time and where are you going to find out about
other operands that you could include.
Due to lack of an adequate Advanced Search Interface for Extensions, I
to make heavier use of a Google search before using addons search
(installed as a keyword shortcut named "addons2:"
with the colon) -- I'm really trying to hit the main description page
and not the older versions, discussions, and comments.
When doing a Google Groups Search, the usage is impossible to deal with
without the "gg:fix" bookmarklet, see write-up and obtain at
Bookmarklets for fixing Google Groups search.
additional items that should be clearly included into fixed
positions of the addon template
areas as follows so people know what the extension does. If
does not know what the sidebar
is they give the extension a zero:
- implementation: main
context and/or link context and/or tabs/context and/or Tools menu
and/or View menu and/or sidebar and/or shortcut key and/or user form
where you see results:
sidebar | dialog | web screen
- Setting options for the
- Indicate where options if
any are set by the user.
- List of keywords:
having to do the Firefox, TB, etc.,
- and up to 5 additional
keywords in a list of keywords should be at the bottom of the
extension. Nothing concerning an individual extension should
be on the
sidebar, except perhaps to include all categories and highlight the
category the current extension is in.
- Is the extension dependent
on another extension.
Are there recommended extensions that enhance usage of this extension.
- Button, icon:
- What does the main toolbar
button, or status bar icon look like
that you might see when the extension is enabled (probably not a
as most extensions have their own symbol that is shown at addons.
Things that hurt Addons (#twostepsback)
major problems have currently been alleviated somewhat for "existing"
addons, but whether anyone will be able to add new material without
being an experienced writer or commercial enterprise remains to be
seen. My suggestion would be
get rid of the sandbox interface as it exists for addons that have been
previously accepted and mark the extension as having additional sandbox
entries, author, or modification entries and a link.
- The versioning requirements
sound like a good idea, and are not new, but for many
extensions it has proved very impractical, because
More information on addons user interface in
Add-ons_2007 New Format, overall the user interface has become much worse, particularly regards to searching and image quality in general is still not good even for extensions where authors discovered that they needed (forced) to resubmit images.
- most very small extensions
are unaffected by versions of Firefox
- written as a proof of
concept with no intention of updating because they work.
certainly extension writers are going to disappear one way or another,
but like newsgroup postings be good or of interest for many years.
- Loss of previous comments
and discussions, while many
were out of date, and made by many who can't read what the extension
does, the comments did provide much insight and some workarounds, links
- Changing the links
from http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/xxxxx to
which for me that would be
hurts and was it really necessary? Hopefully they can
continue to be written as links to help "everyone".
- Keep in mind that addons.mozilla.org
is not the only place to get addons and
if it become unwieldy there are still other places to obtain
- Add a Customized Search
Engine to FIND Extensions at *
(of course this no longer works) http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm#moreext
- Google Groups Search Orientation
- Nothing to do with
Mozilla, but the Google Groups search has deteriorated
into a very unwieldy time consuming interface to results, where
has to go back and forth many times just to read a thread, change
and being slammed with irrelevant extra columns that you need to use a
to get .