Keep in mind that this page is trying to hit a moving target (Firefox 3). If you like something in Firefox 3 it will probably be dropped, and if you hate something in Firefox 3 it will probably stay that way for a long time. Hopefully early warning will have keywords and folder shown once more in all property context menus.
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Some Google searches
Still more documentation needed:
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Terminology (need real terms,
definitions and examples)
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In any case the suppression of keyword implementation on Ctrl+D had been made usable with the "OpenBook" extension in Firefox 2 without having to bring up properties afterwards. Now 'Keyword' has been discombobulated once more with the fluffy 'Places' at the expense of the really valuable 'Keyword' property, which is really hard to update, and the recent list of where to place bookmark has been removed from create bookmark (Ctrl+D).
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The properties of a Bookmark, whether for
Optional detail display of generated data
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The properties of a
History item should show:
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Firefox with all of it's improvements appears to be going downhill due to a bad direction in documentation (documentation for the non-technical). Instead of clear / complete / concise directions written by anyone in MozillaZine with careful scrutiny seems to going from better to worse starting with a dysfunctional addons.mozilla.org in March, 2007. A support.mozilla.org in progress from summer and ongoing whose mission is actually to make documentation more readable but it looks like green puke over a comic book style, and now places in FF 3 which may be good but they are suppressing keyword so you really can't do much with either. ♦
And so it really isn't such a surprise that this page may greet some people testing Firefox 3.0b2 (Beta 2), and I'm glad I started testing without seeing that stupid destructive robot page initially. Welcome to Firefox 3 Beta 2. What in the world were they thinking, the more I see of Places it certainly look more and more like self-destruction.
Things that seem actually good in Places
The shock will probably be that "Bookmarks Manager" that comes up has been replaced by "Places Organizer" (this is a Beta and that could change to something like "Bookmarks Organizer" or back to "Bookmarks Manager"), but you should notice that it now contains History, Bookmarks, and All Bookmarks.
and that All Bookmarks is now broken down into
Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu (with bookmarks in folders), and Unfiled Bookmarks (from places)
You will encounter Places if you do a quick bookmark with the hollow star at the within the right side of the location bar which then becomes a gold star upon being bookmarked, or using bookmarks, Bookmark this Page (Ctrl+D).
You will notice that in their haste to promote Tags: that it is more difficult to create the much more useful Keyword:
Keep in mind that this was created during Beta testing and at least all if not most have been fixed in Firefox or have solutions. The "OpenBook" extension or the Style 9029 -- Keyword addition for Add/Change Bookmark (Fx3)(userstyles.org) solves the main complaint of loss of feature for 4-6 months during beta testing.The Grinch that stole bookmarks folders and keyword functionality. Folders are back, keyword available with extension or style.
Almost back to normal now with the updating for Fx3 of the "OpenBook" extension.
Summary: Places is not an improvement but a regression of commonly used features such as bookmark folders, and keywords. ; While Places could have been integrated into full properties entries, and disclosures while bookmarking and reviewing it was not and simply because it is missing that very simple to use interface places fails in it's primary mission of adding functionality to bookmarks.
My use of keywords does not conflict with tags in any manner because all of my keyword shortcuts include a colon (":"), and I never invoke a sort by default from the location bar (keyword.enabled user set boolean false).
Folder option is definitely a big problem there seem to be so
many big problems with this starred bookmark thing.
Click on an unfilled star (create a bookmark)
you get a bookmark (you get a gold star, no information)
you should get: Name:, URL:, Keyword:, Tags, Description:, Folder (see below)
with OK / Cancel
Click on a filled star item (bookmark exists)
you get Name:, Folder:, Tags:
with Delete / Done
you should get: Name:, URL:, Keyword:, Tags, Description:, Folder
with OK / Cancel
what exactly does delete mean anyway, what if I have 5 bookmarks
all pointing to the same url.
and what if I change the folder of the one I'm looking at and then delete
missing new folder option
and there is also the lack of changing to one of the recent folders
both of these have been the available in version 2.
Firefox 3 problems (3.0b5pre)
These extensions wipe out use of shortcut Ctrl+D (Bookmark page)
McAfee SiteAdvisor, Search Cache, Split Browser.
Toolbar icons suck, were much better looking like Firefox than the OS.
Back/Forward as white scrollers in has made small icons usage humongous,
Give us back the smaller same sized green arrow pair that fit on toolbar
and is easier to see without make crap look even crappier.
The red (with white x) close button for closing tab (option to be at right of bar) is
now practically invisible black cross on curved metallic silver button. Same
for close on the Find.
The home icon with bluish sides and blue roof doesn't look much like a house.,
not like the old oblique drawing.
Tool bars look like shiny metal, makes reading wording difficult.
Rounded corners and rounded shapes waste space on toolbars
The "Restart" within addons was okay while it lasted, now you have
to install, enable or disable an extension. (Quick Restart extension is nicer)
Still have no way of working with the following in bookmarking a page
without lots of extra steps caused by "quick bookmarks" (star bookmarks).
keyword shortcut, description, create a bookmark folder,
can't delete a bookmark from star, if accidentally created through star
loss of any bookmark by changing folder is probably still likely with star
Bookmarking is a mess, and without the "OpenBook" extension to fix the
mess, if it can undo the whole star bookmarks that would be fine, as it is practically
impossible to work with bookmarks in Fx3 without
a lot of extra steps, for something that purports to make bookmarking easier.
The structure of the bookmark folders has been tampered with
Personal bookmarks separated, whole mess of new folders/bookmarks
added to the personal bookmarks bar, and creating "unfiled bookmarks",
"smart bookmarks" are so many definitions because it never was defined.
It's bearable but seems like it has been designed because Firefox did not
adopt a decent sort bookmarks that would not sort personal bookmarks
when sorting all other bookmarks so created new folders and placements.
Minor problem:
Clicking on Favicon has changed, and can make dragging the icon to the
tabs bar difficult as "This site does not supply identity information"
can cover tabs bar on a narrow window. Modifies behavior that was
equivalent to Ctrl+A on the location bar, but two single clicks will work.
Could have been done with context menu on the favicon if tools menu
properties or page info, is not good enough.
This one just started use of Ctrl+C does not work when Firefox
is first started until I've used it in Notepad then it works fine in Firefox.
Windows Vista Home Basic, Minefield (non logoed Firefox 3.0b5pre)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9b5pre) Gecko/2008032304 Minefield/3.0b5pre
You can see properties list with keyword, if you right click on bookmark in bookmarks sidebar (Ctrl+B), or with rightclick on a bookmark entry on the right side of the "Show All Bookmarks" listings.
Bookmarks (menu) then either "Organize Bookmarks" or "Show All Bookmarks"
or anything else that item might be changed to leading to final Firefox 3.
On the bookmarks side bar select the folder you want your bookmark to appear
in, all of my keyword shortcuts are in one folder "K" in my "personal bookmarks".
Then select a bookmark within the folder, right click, choose, create bookmark, then
you will see the properties menu with keyword (the old stuff) in it, and very
curiously missing new tags entry..
Name: eb: Ebay.com
Location: http://www.ebay.com (you can start somewhere else, if you like)
keyword: eb: (I am suggesting it include a colon eb:, eb1:, eb:1)
Description:
To use enter eb: on the location bar and hit enter.
compare detail pane, properties window, popup overlay and see
(info) Bug 387749 - add an item detail pane to the organizer
(info) Bug 408413 - bookmark keyword not saved when using ctrl-D add bookmark menu
(new) bug to be placed by Mike Belzer 2008-02-22
compare with the dysfunctional Places dialog in Firefox 3.0b2 (below), and a picture of what I saw twice on the right which has everything. It would seem to be related to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Live_Bookmarks_-_Firefox#How_to_add_a_Live_Bookmark
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Some pictures of modified Firefox toolbars, and degeneration of Home, Back/Forward buttons.
I have caught a glimpse of the dialog at the right in Firefox 3.0b2 which
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First find your bookmark is "Show all Bookmarks" (bookmarks menu), then use the bookmarks search, once found right click to bring up properties which does not show tags, or use the flat bookmarks editor at the bottom of the search, and move borders around so you can see the information.
With the "OpenBook" extension you have almost fully functional bookmark panel,
which is missing "Load in Sidepanel" option, and of course you must have the extension and it must be active in order to make reasonable use of bookmarks.
Without "OpenBook" extension: If you want to cut and paste into the places drop-down you can't because
it will disappear and you won't know if you page was bookmarked, deleted
bookmark, changed or unchanged. Very much unlike the Add Bookmark
]and properties in Firefox 2 which left a lot to be desired without
the "OpenBook" extension.
The OpenBook extension has been updated to work with Fx3, and soon afterwards found one now can use a few userChrome.css statements and not need the extension at all. Simply install the "Stylish" extension, then obtain Keyword addition for Add/Change Bookmark (style 9029). So the final result is okay, but it was shear torture to having lost means available in in Version 2 in the interim (at least six months). So even though it was posted on the internet in March, I never saw it until June.
One-click browsing in a nutshell: (in a nutcase):
The awesomebar is the location drop-down that finds bookmark, and history items that match what you've typed so far in the location bar (url bar). In FF 3.0b2 each item is two rows plus a separator and makes it difficult to see much on one window. (was much better in version 2 spacewise and by appearance)
needs documentation and or updates for Fx3 |
How the AwesomeBar works (that's not a misspelling in the name)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.frecency.(visit_type)VisitBonus
http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=Browser.urlbar.filter.javascript
about:config preferences
browser.urlbar.maxRichResults 20 the default is 12, and 0 gets rid of
browser.urlbar.richResults False, the default is True for two lined results
browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped False (default) allows Autocomplete [ref.
Disabling_autocomplete]
Bug 392143 – show keywords as url bar autocomplete choices (comment #64), also provides a way of choosing which keyword bookmark you really want if you have duplicates and they go to different urls.
Look for symbols on awesome bar such as magnifying glass, key, star (bookmark)
The Places frecency algorithm - MDC, Frequency is a score given to each unique URI in Places, encompassing bookmarks, history and tags. This score is determined by the amount of revisitation, the type of those visits, how recent they were, and whether the URI was bookmarked or tagged.
The following addition for userChrome.css includes later enhancements made in the same thread that does not interfere with Tools, Addons list (be sure to verify that it remains valid). I like this one because link in FF 2 each item is on one row instead of three, and you can hover the cursor on the url portion or the title portion of those that ARE too long to display. You may find enhancements later that you like better in the same thread. Included in my userChrome.css
/* FF3 URL-dropdown, Lars-Erik Østerud, 2007-12-21, revert awesomebar to Ff2,
http://google.com/groups?threadm=b6qdnYdC8JgZiPHanZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@mozilla.org
to see tooltips may need browser.chrome.toolbar_tips True (default) -- */
.autocomplete-richlistitem spacer,.autocomplete-richlistitem
label{display:none!important}
.ac-title{margin:-4px 8px 2px -4px!important}
.ac-url{margin:-6px 0px 0px 20px!important}
You can test the limits by pasting this string into a Google search and then checking the location bar drop-down, the expansion is not limited to url bar size, nor window width and will be folded at full width of the screen: (Firefox 3 changes newline characters to space for searchbar entry)
one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three twenty-four twenty-fiveBrowser.urlbar.richResults, True: Display the drop-down of the Location Bar as a richlistbox widget. (Default), False: Use the standard drop-down widget for the Location Bar. Mine is set to False, and I see no difference either way
Or if you want green URL on top, and blue titles on below, space waster (Foteos Macrides, 2007-12-23) [screenshot,]
Bug 364745 – Extension tracking for Firefox 3
Bug 223735 – _search does not work as a target when using window.open, so can't use cheatsheet in sidebar.
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Looking at the
Documentation for tracking bug: 393508 – Mockup: Location Bar Autocomplete, one of the screen-shots is
http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/granParadisoUI/places_UnifyingSearch_i1.png
Bet you wished you'd had imput for bookmark tracking bug --
Bug 393509 – Mockup: Bookmark Contextual Dialog before it was too late.
A 20 inch auxiliary monitor set at 1680 x 1050 not easy to read other
stuff with, or a spanking new laptop set at 1280 x 800 sort of works but I wouldn't use either
to do anything else at those settings. So anyway they are five full size screen shots
or upper portions of such like for 1024 x 768 (I guess) with information shown to
left and right side of the screen shots -- actually the whole page is a 1/2 MB image. Glad I'm able to see that now thanks to Windows Vista and a new laptop.
To me it is the features and customization of Firefox that really makes Firefox my browser of choice,
unfortunately it seems the direction is make Firefox take on the worst parts of other browsers and
to no longer integrate the best parts of other browsers.
Probably best to skip over this section if strictly reading articles.
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Developer's documentation (#developers)
Just in case anyone is wondering what it takes to follow the developer's documentation mock-ups this is what I see (certainly could not do this 6 months ago, well I wouldn't have even been able to install a second version of Firefox then either, not until Sept 2007). If you really wanted to
look at a mock-up of some of places could be made to appear see 2007-12-20 the
following is what you would have to be able to do:
SUMO Project and Replacement of HELP files (#sumo)
Advantages and Disadvantages of new Support.Mozilla.Org
I'm not really much into the advantages as far as updating and translations go, because
my interest lies in the user interface to HELP documentation, to ADDONS documentation, and Configuration
and customization documentation or the lack of same or it's destruction.
Disadvantages created by SUMO project
Compare these two involving HELP for menu: Tools, Options.
site is frequently broken, try, try and try again, use F5 several times, once there for
correct (CSS) styling.
Note there is no Table of Content on the Left, there is no continuity to other
help items, there is a huge wasteful column on the right that is wasteful in space
and very unprofessional looking (like a comic book), the unprofession large green
heading and huge TOC within the document waste two pages before you even start, and
because it is a webpage it also has to tell you that you're looking at Firefox help,
and then finally junk in the trunk at to bottom.
Have to show you a picture because there is no archive that I know of other than installing
Fx2, which will probably have it's builtin HELP destroyed as well. Note the concise TOC that
is expandable for an item into it's next levels. Note also the continuity which allows
you to read HELP as if it were a book.
Solution to missing problem at MozillaZine and formatting problem at SUMO was solved
from a solution by Antoine Mechelynck (Tony, 2008-05-16) by setting dom.max_chrome_script_run_time and
dom.max_script_run_time both set to 180 instead of their defaults of 20
and 10 respectively.
Testing (#testing)
Unclassified material for Places bookmarks
(#unclassified)
More unclassified links (#more)
Google search: site:mozilla.org OR site:mozillazine.org about places
Related (#related)
Bookmarks Folders in Firefox 3, place: bookmark like folders with bookmarks and/or history, sort order, max results
or to forum: MozillaZine Forums,