Experience with AOL 4.0 (16-bit) using a Windows NT 4.0 system
List of Problems with AOL
- Windows NT the premiere software
from Microsoft that is where everybody is supposed to have migrated to
ever since Win95 came out. WinNT is not supported; whereas,
Win9x with virtually no security measures is supported. Having
to use 16 bit programming for WinNT is absurd. Downgrading to Win95,
Win97, Win98 is out of the question, and upgrading to Win2000 from
anything but Win98 is unsupported. Win98 which is 32 bit is
supported, so can't really believe there is a valid reason that
WinNT 4.0 is not fully supported.
- What I want is direct access
to the Internet, I do not care at all about AOL chat groups. Trying
to access AOL facilities is too slow and frequently cause one to get
terminated - probably has Active-X or advertisers.
- Getting logged off of
AOL, cannot come back to current work. Anything started in a
newsgroup post is lost, anything. Frequently logged off without
warning. The triple beep warning is better, but the loss of
connection is very problematic and appears to be on purpose. I see under
Win98 that one can continue where they were in Internet navigation with a
browser when they log back onto AOL -- this is not possible with WinNT
having to look and act like Win 3.1. I acquired an MSN account and do not get logged
off, and can continue where I was if I decide to suddenly break the
- AOL frequently locks up so
that you cannot reply to windows, such as Reply or else, Mailbox
needs compression, and get logged off because you are locked out. Have found that by clicking on the AOL window
before replying to the dialog
will usually allow one to proceed.
- Insufficient web space.
- AOL online HELP is not
indexed such as AltaVista and Deja News. Furthermore it should
be on public web pages so that it can be referenced by free public
indexers such as AltaVista and Deja News. Currently about the only source of useful indexed
information is in alt.aol.sucks which needless to say has far more
derogatory information than useful information. Compare this to the extensive Microsoft Knowledge Data
Base (MS KB) which sorry to say is not readily available to me with AOL
dialup access from WinNT due to ActiveX, I suppose. People on Win9x systems, I imagine
have no problems.
- AOL updates come without
warning and 1/2 time used to make system unusable for two days and
severely crippled for another two weeks. AOL help desk usual
response reinstall. That means installing AOL 3.1 and
redownloading 4.0 because there is not upgrade file. Now I retain AOL 3.1 just so I can reapply the
4.0 install without redownloading.
TOS and Privacy
- Not being able to shut down
AOL advertising once and for all, and to be able to verify that it is all
turned off. AOL presumably allows you to turn off, but it is not
guaranteed. If you try to find out why you are getting junk from AOL
you have to go through the entire process again because AOL does not tell
you what they have already marked.
- Not being able to close out
Welcome and AOL advertising windows is certainly a service related issue.
- I still remember getting a
very inappropriate TOS UCE/SPAM reply back to me from AOL when I
tried to tell AOL how some of wording in a lawsuit should have been
changed to not be ambiguous, and another time when I complained about
- The actual cost of increasing
web space must be almost nil per user, but enhanced web space is available
only if AOL can join you into a neighborhood so it can advertise through
your site. Seems to me that the use of AOL in email and websites
should be speak for itself. Also the neighborhood stuff and
advertisement take down AOL and the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) meaning
Active-X or Java..
- The attempts of AOL to sell
lists of members through "trusted" advertisers and to subvert
and change the TOS policy was a major fiasco. If AOL allows others
to gather such information and sell or give it to AOL is equally a breech
- AOL appears to welcome video
and audio files in email and web browsing which increases transmissions
times, while severely limiting text based HTML space.
List of problems with AOL Email
- Inadequate filters to
eliminate SPAM mailing. No proper documentation, even on what
the minimum entries are to eliminate a poster. for example wild card
characters. Can you eliminate Korean sites with
just .kr for instance, that is not mentioned in
descriptions. AOL uses filtering to send back messages for
automatic replies when sending messages to AOL.
- Cannot put all mail into a
readable text file, for processing by a program that works with text.
- Cannot send SPAM to TOSSPAM
without opening it. Cannot
check headers without opening it.
- Cannot cancel all copies of
SPAM with a single button to delete and not file in PFC (Personal
Filing Cabinet), suggest a RED Delete button for this purpose.
- Want a button on Email to
automatically add the sender and anything that looks like it the to the
Filtered Out list. [Filter Out]. Want to be able to
automatically separate questionable email for later review in a separate
- Want a button on Email to
eliminate the automatic copy to the PFC for the particular email in
read. [Purge this Email]
- Want to be able to Print each
email to a Directory so that all parts are readable and it can be stored
outside the PFC which can then be reduced. Having email dumped
elsewhere would allow me to search with a free search engine for personal
use, store it on removable media. Would allow old email to be put
into something like Ask Sam.
List of problems with Newsgroups
- Can't get to newsgroups
through Netscape to post/reply due to lack of pop3 or is it SMTP support.
- A posting or reply which has
been started gets lost, when AOL inappropriately and maliciously
kicks you off.
- Once kicked off you cannot
access the entire thread from an article seen and now marked as unread,
without going through the nonsense of obtaining everything that has been
posted in the newsgroup and finding the thread again in the huge list.
- AOL own newsgroups for
solving AOL problems are not on Deja News where items can be indexed and
- Got following message (May
11, 1999) and do not have multiple sessions: "This account has
multiple active sessions. You may continue reading but be aware that
any activity during this session such as marking articles read, may not
get saved." I got a response back to a message I
sent telling to do exactly what I had already tried, switching sessions,
getting out of AOL, even rebooting. Nothing eliminates this message
it still comes up all day. Assume the fault was at AOL for that day.
- Want to be able to read the
email that contain HTML, yet be confident that no posting of mine will
create HTML nor replicate HTML in a reply post. If this is not
clear want to be able to eliminate viewing of either the HTML portion or
the text portion of a multi MIME post in newsgroups.
Newsgroups Features added June
- SPAM filter, no HELP in
dialog box. What for instance constitutes a domain.
- Would appreciate a [Spam
Filter] button that would return a dialog such as:
This posting could be blocked with: (==suggestions==)
Problems with AOL Help Desk and HELP areas
- One responder said you
cannot access AOL from WinNT. Contrary to instructions on how to use
AOL from WinNT. There is a difference between WinNT not being
supported and not getting help as Win3.1 either.
- All calls to HELP desk should
be assigned a response number and except for security issues should be in
a public database.
- AOL own help information on
it's own Keyword files for information and for solving AOL problems are
not on regular web pages where items can be indexed and located via search
engines such as AltaVista for web pages, and DejaNews for newsgroups.
Problem with AOL Browser
- The bastardized version of
Internet Explorer is using a small font size on some sites that cannot be
adjusted nor read without cutting and pasting. My IE 4.0 is
32-bit, so the AOL 16-bit cannot be using the IE 4.0 on my system.
- AOL browser does not have a
- AOL browser does not have a
- AOL browser does not line up
HTML Tables or Frames same as other browsers.
- The only decent bookmarks
were in Netscape 3.1 which allowed bookmarks to be sorted, and the
bookmarks file to be read as a normal HTML file. For what it is worth, IExplorer allows one to
export/import Netscape (HTML) bookmark files and to synchronize them. (See IE5 help menu).
- Can't access many sites from
AOL browser, because it terminates, not same sites as Netscape browsers
fail, directly related to 16-bit AOL.
- E-Trade and other
advertisers on AOL bring AOL and NTVDM down, suspect they are trying to do
nasty things with personal information.
Problem with normal Browsers using AOL 16-bit
- Can't access many sites from
AOL with Netscape, because it terminates, not same sites as AOL browser
fails at, directly related to 16-bit AOL.
- Netscape 4.06 gets terminated
- Netscape 3.0.1 gets
terminated at sites notably some of those with Double-click advertising
depending on where it goes out to and use of Java or ActiveX.
- IE 4.0 32-bit is used for
local use only. It is not connected to AOL. (I now have IE 5.0 32-bit
and am online with MSN, even though I use WinNT)
- My System is WinNT 4.0
SP4, 64MB Ram, USR 33.6 modem. My AOL is
16-bit release 4.0
Reply to Marketing Preferences SPAM email from AOL: Nov 9, 1999
I chose not to receive pop-ups and not to receive
advertising. I do not wish
this to change.
It is irresponsible that AOL does not list what my
preferences are when I go to set them.
There is no way that I can check whether you have changed things, which
you have done in the past. -- I have complained about this before, and I am
complaining about the disregard for our preferences once more. I do not appreciate receiving
unsolicited UCE/SPAM email from anyone, and do not appreciate that AOL has
turned over address lists in the past.
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